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The Unshaven Rant-Cast: Episode 89!

Written on Tue, Feb 19, 2013 by Marc posted by marc

NOTE: Part 1 is missing. Marc’s ability to draw far exceeds his ability to record. Long story short: this is all you get. Sorries…

Welcome back. Today is just a rant and a half kiddos. Orson Scott Card, and his anti-gay stance has torn comicdom asunder. With that in mind, we open the floor to one another to ask ourselves: Do the views and opinions of those who create our media influence or curb our spending on their respective products? It’s a real “shades of grey” discussion. One you’d do well to listen to!

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The Unshaven Rant-Cast, February 18th (part 2), 2013:

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4 Responses to “The Unshaven Rant-Cast: Episode 89!”

  1. Mike Kristofik says:

    This was a thought-provoking episode. It certainly had me thinking all the way to work on the train. You get a gnepperesque Good Job from me on that.

    I always say you should vote with your dollars. I really don’t think you can totally separate the creation from its creator. After all, isn’t it the whole point of art to pour a bit of your soul into each work? If you feel strongly enough about Orson Scott Card, then yeah, don’t buy his book. But maybe there’s more to it than that.

    I think you stumbled on to something interesting. You said that most of comicdom is liberal. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I’m pretty sure it’s likely to stay that way if comic fans reach for the b-word every time a creator has a right-wing opinion.

    Don’t get me wrong – I’m not suggesting someone should make a Republican comic. Make good comics first, and let who you are shine through. I just think comics could benefit from a little more diversity of thought. Mr. Card is certainly entitled to his opinion. But if the fans’ knee-jerk response is to boycott everyone they disagree with, it won’t be long before he’s not entitled to his art.

  2. Marc says:

    Nail on the head, Mike. There ARE republican creators. I could name a dozen right now (with Mike Gold on the other line). But suffice to say: the mainstream books of DC and Marvel are not likely to get too political. Some books that dare do it, like Ex Machina by Brian K. Vaughn, handle it well.

    To your point, I don’t see anything wrong with a more balanced approach to presentation of ideas in comics or any medium for that matter. As bleeding left as “The West Wing” was, Aaron Sorkin DID provide plenty of the opposing ideology to help show the POVs. I think that could just as easily be applied to a comic that had a political bent to it.

    Concerning the marriage of a creator to his/her work: It’s there, but not necessarily apparent every time. I think the best creators find subtle ways to interject themselves into their work. It’s when it gets ham-fisted that I think it makes for a dull creation. And I thank you. I now have an article for ComicMix this week.

  3. Michael Bear says:

    A little behind on my comments, so this might be a long one.

    I am a little torn on the Card issue. Greg and I still haven’t eaten at Chic-Fil-A after their big gay blow-up, but I don’t see this affecting me the same. If he started writing for Batman, I would probably continue to buy it, but like with any writer, if I don’t like his writing, I would drop the title because of his writing, not because he is against gays. The way I see it, he is already protesting to keep me from getting married, why should I let him take away a comic that I enjoy as well. On the other hand, if he were to put out an independent title of his own creation, I don’t see myself buying it.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I have the right to protest for what I believe in, he should have the same right. It’s also my choice to decide to attend his protest or not. The same goes with his comics. If he writes a good Superman story, I’m willing to buy it. If he clearly has anti-gay material in the comic, then I would boycott it and protest to DC. He can have all the rallies he wants against gay marriage. He can even create a comic and protest gay marriage. I just feel that he shouldn’t be allowed to use something like Superman to do it. At that point, DC is at fault, but I really don’t believe DC would let him do anything like that. I can promise you that there are employees at DC and Marvel right now who have issues with gay people, black people, Jewish people, Christian people, atheists and so on. There is always someone who is against someone and we read their stuff every day without knowing it.

    As far as Matt making the promise to run through the streets naked. Don’t be surprised if you see a big group of bears standing outside your house not allowing you to leave until the book is finished.

  4. Marc says:

    Well stated Michael, on all counts. Of course I’ll be on the lookout for linked-arm bear armies amassing around my block.

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